Podcasts

The work of anti-racism and for justice can be incredibly exhausting and even at times lonely. We have all seen or heard stories of those most passionate for justice, shipwrecking their faith, their marriages & families or even their own lives. In this episode David and John sit down with Tyler Burns, Vice President of the The Witness: A Black Christian Collective and co-host of Pass the Mic, to discuss…
In this episode David and John sat down with Heidi Segal from Outliers to talk about the impact of the COVID-19 lockdown on education, the proposed phased reopening of schools, the realities of long-term structural inequalities in education and how the work of Outliers is positioned to address some of these challenges. The discussion also touched on how we understand the gospel and the role of the church in addressing…
In this episode David sat down with Jemar Tisby, President of The Witness, a Black Christian Collective, host of the Footnotes Podcast and co-host of the hugely influential Pass the Mic podcast, to discuss his new book "The Color of Compromise: The Truth about The American Church's Complicity in Racism." They also discussed the importance of truth-telling for reconciliation, the importance of the black church, why racism is not merely…
Part 4 our series "Not all Viruses are Equal" reflecting on the impact which COVID-19 could have on communities which are already suffering under the impact of long term structural inequality and the legacy of spatial apartheid. In this episode David and John are joined by Danielle Moosajie, director of Arise to discuss the effects of lockdown on families in our most vulnerable communities as it relates to emotional health,…
Part 3 our series "Not all Viruses are Equal" reflecting on the impact which COVID-19 could have on communities which are already suffering under the impact of long term structural inequality and the legacy of spatial apartheid. As well as reflecting on the role which the church could play, both during the present crisis, as well in the longer term crisis of the prevailing legacy of structural inequality around issues…
Part Two our series "Not all Viruses are Equal" reflecting on the impact which COVID-19 could have on communities which are already suffering under the impact of long term structural inequality and the legacy of spatial apartheid. In this episode David and John are joined by Dr Vaughan Stannard from Beautiful Gate to discuss the impact which COVID-19 could have politically, socially and economically on already marginalized communities still dealing…
In this episode David and John share some initial thoughts around the Coronavirus and its potential impact on South Africa. Particularly focusing on the impact which long term structural inequality and the legacy of spatial apartheid could have. They also offer some initial thoughts on the role which the church could play and what it could mean to a good neighbours, particularly to the poor and the vulnerable, in these…
In this episode David and John discuss former deputy president FW de Klerk's recent statement (and subsequent apology) that apartheid was not a crime against humanity. We discussd de Klerk's history of similar statements, as well as his testimony before the TRC. We probed what biblical repentance could look like and explored if the church in South Africa was guilty of a cheap repentance. In particular we asked if white…
In this episode David and John sat down with the "godfather" of African American theology Dr Carl Ellis. We spoke about black consciousness, Dr King and Malcolm X and the limited gospel of American evangelicalism. We heard how black consciousness gave Dr Ellis the right questions with which to approach the text. And how Dr Ellis' own theological education had little to say to the context of his life and…
In this episode David and John sat down with One Mokgatle from Rooted Fellowship and Regional Director of Acts 29 Southern Africa to speak about black leadership in multi-ethnic church spaces. We spoke about trans-culturalism and identity in Christ; about white flight and distrust of black leadership. About Churches as prophetic voices on economic reform and racial transformation. We asked why are black pastors always talking about race? We asked…